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2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 12:01
by TroyT
I have little experience or knowledge regarding effects loops. Since I've had the 2266X, I've learned that my delay sounds best through the loop. So, last week I used an effects loop for the first time. Not knowing if a true bypass pedal or buffered pedal would work best, I decided to use my old Boss DD-3 which is buffered. I ran two long cables to switch it out front. What I noticed was a huge increase in high end and much less beef and goodness. I'm not sure what the culprit was or exactly how to remedy it, but this week I'm gonna try better quality cables, but they are still long, and with a true-bypass delay instead.

Would using short cables be better? If so, what type of unit can I use to switch it out front?

I also have a Hughes & Kettner Tube Rotosphere which sounds best in the loop. However, with drive, it gets very raspy sounding. When I back off on the guitars volume it sounds better. So, again, I do not know what's going on? Impedance issue?? And I do not know if delay should be before or after the Rotosphere??

Any help would be fantastic. Thank you!

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 12:07
by Jwalkin
Suggestion: you might try an e.q. pedal in the loop; help you to boost or cut. Let us know how you make out.

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 20:54
by Anitoli
I also could have something to do with the configuration of the loop. VM's use fet's in the loop. How fet's are affected by impedance's from length of cable, pedal makeup, ect may be very different than loops that use tubes or opamp's. Have you tried changing the loop level switch?

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 05:11
by TroyT
Anitoli wrote:I also could have something to do with the configuration of the loop. VM's use fet's in the loop. How fet's are affected by impedance's from length of cable, pedal makeup, ect may be very different than loops that use tubes or opamp's. Have you tried changing the loop level switch?
I just use the -10dB option because that's what it says to use with pedals.

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 06:03
by Anitoli
Try the +4. That will boost the signal a bit.

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 06:30
by TroyT
Anitoli wrote:Try the +4. That will boost the signal a bit.
Excuse my ignorance with this, but what will change? Thanks

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 31 Jan 2018, 20:43
by Anitoli
It changes the level of the signal going out from the loop to the pedals. -10db is much lower than +4db. It is normally used when going from stomp boxes to rack units but depending on what is in your loop the higher level might work better. It won't hurt anything to try it. See how it sounds.

Re: 2266C Effects Loop

Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 05:46
by TroyT
Anitoli wrote:It changes the level of the signal going out from the loop to the pedals. -10db is much lower than +4db. It is normally used when going from stomp boxes to rack units but depending on what is in your loop the higher level might work better. It won't hurt anything to try it. See how it sounds.
I'll try that along with better cables and a true bypass delay to start. Not sure if I'm having some sort of impedance issue with the Tube Rotosphere? Thanks