I tryed the vintage modern for the first time today

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I tryed the vintage modern for the first time today

Postby roryp15 » 24 Nov 2008, 14:51

I was in my local music store and i decided to try out the amp. First the guy told he that with the vintage modern it had to be driven hard. Ok so he gave me a guitar tuned it up then played some stuff to make sure it was working he turned the volume up to 4 on the low ranage and yeah, i could tell it was starting to come in. Anyways i had to play with the master on 1.5 ( joys ) I found some good sounds not amazing but rember the volume was on 1.5. The only thing that annoyed me was i know its supposed to be based on a jtm45 and sond very plexi like. It sounded slightly fuzzy and only had half of that classic plaexi like crunch. Is this just due to the master being on 1.5 or does it sound quite fuzzy ( not bad fuzzy ) and doesnt have the plexi crunch as much as i thought it would.

Also the guy sayed he would get me the amp for the lowest price possible and i would not be able to beat it soooo.... vintage modern on its way soon :D woo hoo

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Postby snatch » 24 Nov 2008, 15:01

i found that the sound and characteristics of this amp rely heavily on the type of speakers that its played through, do you know what kind of speakers it was through? also the master volume does make a big difference. the v.m. loves to be cranked. you can get some pretty good tones at low volumes but it really shines when the master is at least half way up. if the 100 watter is to loud for your needs at those levels you might want to check out the 50 watter
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Postby roryp15 » 24 Nov 2008, 15:05

i was playing it in a musci store, thats why it was on 1.5. Also it was the 2266 50 watter through the matching cab

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Postby basshole » 24 Nov 2008, 15:10

Well i think you answered your own question a bit when you said "turned the volume up to 4 on the low ranage and yeah, i could tell it was starting to come in."
IMHO preamp gain (with the master set way low) is not really what true classic marshall tone is about, rather dime the master and start turning up the preamp knobs until it's getting too loud, then back down the master a notch and turn the preamp knobs a bit further.
In the studio i always max my master and then simply turn up the pre's until i get what i want.
I do the same live but then i keep the amp almost clean and let my pedals do the howling.
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Postby DeanM » 24 Nov 2008, 15:11

some one asked recently how to get the same or similar tone as a plexi using a VM and steveD gave them the settings that would get you close. i cant remember them or remember where this was posted but yeah for the master volume he said to put it on full.

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Postby coldsteal2 » 24 Nov 2008, 22:18

all music stores should have a "Crank room"
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Re: I tryed the vintage modern for the first time today

Postby Bluesburst » 25 Nov 2008, 22:36

roryp15 wrote: The only thing that annoyed me was i know its supposed to be based on a jtm45 and sond very plexi like. It sounded slightly fuzzy and only had half of that classic plaexi like crunch. Is this just due to the master being on 1.5 or does it sound quite fuzzy ( not bad fuzzy ) and doesnt have the plexi crunch as much as i thought it would.
Hey Rory

This is PRECISELY my issue. I bought my 2266 / 425A for project that didn't get off the ground so for now and the foreseeable future I have a 50watt VM as a home amp. Of course it's no way a slight on the VM, it's not what it was designed for to be used as a bedroom / lounge room amp.

So, I'm currently searching for a good EQ unit (possibly with Boost / Overdrive capabilities) that will bring more life into the amp at low volumes.

You're on a good thing, we just need to find the magic box that will bring out the VM qualities at home volumes.
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Postby roryp15 » 26 Nov 2008, 10:35

im not planning on using it as a bedroom at i will plug directly into my pod xt live for that but more for band practise, gigs, recording aswell im afetr that " vintage " marshall crunch sound

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Postby Bluesburst » 26 Nov 2008, 13:58

roryp15 wrote:im not planning on using it as a bedroom at i will plug directly into my pod xt live for that but more for band practise, gigs, recording aswell im afetr that " vintage " marshall crunch sound
Then you should have no problem, I find the VM "comes alive from 4 or 5 onwards on the 2266 so you should be fine.
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Postby slowpokerhino » 26 Nov 2008, 15:35

I've been looking at isolation cabs lately. Would be great for recording, live (through the board) with an anal soundman, or playing at low levels at home. My speakers are 100 watts so a 1x12 Iso cab would theoretically work great for me in situations where I can't play at full volume. Much better solution than an attenuator IMO. Anybody had any experience with these?

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Postby StephenRutledge » 26 Nov 2008, 15:58

I've recorded my VM combo on very low volumes with help using pedals... mod SD-1, crunch box, mod Rat2... with mid boost on and good mic placement the sound was great. Spend time tweaking the body and detail and you should get a tone. Once you get the master past 12 o'clock and above it starts to come alive and just sounds amazing on about 4-5 o'clock for me. Like the guys have said above... this amp wants those KT66 power tubes to get out of 1st gear then it really sings.

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Postby DeanM » 27 Nov 2008, 15:30

slowpokerhino wrote:I've been looking at isolation cabs lately. Would be great for recording, live (through the board) with an anal soundman, or playing at low levels at home. My speakers are 100 watts so a 1x12 Iso cab would theoretically work great for me in situations where I can't play at full volume. Much better solution than an attenuator IMO. Anybody had any experience with these?
i saw this ages ago!! looks like a gud idea!!

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