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4x12 Celestion G12F-60 Rock Junior question...

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 27 Sep 2009, 03:55

Yesterday I traded my ipod and $100 for a Huges & Kettner 4x12 cab with 60 watt each Celestion G12f's. I must say first that this cab is mind blowing on Dynamic High and Low, but on the low range when I try to clean up theres massive ghost note syndrom, my playing sounds clear 100% of the time but theres a ghost bass note that makes the cleans sound flabby while still sounding very good.

I know some speakers display ghost notes and some don't but my question is... could it be the speakers haven't been broken in properly prior to me getting the cab? I guess the guy never played the cab loud. My Jensen 40 year old Jensen C12n cab did not do the ghost note thing and my Jensen mod 12-50s did do it but stopped after the break in period. This cab was used with a 100 watt solid state head prior to me buying it, it sounds amazing but theres that flabby ghost bass note thats pretty prominent in the low range.

I did try both cabs back and fourth to rule out the low and high range pre amp tubes. These speakers sound great I just hope this ghost note becomes less noticable after a few run ins with my KT66s at 8 on the MV. I ask mainly because I never dealt with Celestions before and I'm wondering if they have a slight flabby nature prior to break in? The sound behind the ghost flab is very expressive and full of life! and displays the wonderfull character of the Vintage Modern very well.

The first thing I did when I got it home, was I ripped that Huges & Kettner plate off and put my extra Marshall plate on the front :-)

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Re: 4x12 Celestion G12F-60 Rock Junior question...

Postby LivewireBlanco » 27 Sep 2009, 09:18

My first guess would be that they aren't broken in yet. Just play them loud for a few weeks and see if that helps the problem.
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Re: 4x12 Celestion G12F-60 Rock Junior question...

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 09 Oct 2009, 11:13

They actually sound very good turned up but the flabby sound is still there after one jam with the volume of my 2466 100 watt at 9 on the VM.

The flab appears to be comming from the top right speaker in my 4x12 when looking at it from the front but that speaker sounds good at high volume!.

The rest of the speakers do not have any flab or extra bass sound, they sound great, its just the top right speaker that has this flab at lower volume.
Amplifiers: Marshall 2555x 100watt Silver Jubilee Full Stack with matching 2551AV & 2551BV 8x12 70 watt Vintage 30 speakers.
Marshall 2466 100watt Vintage Modern w/ Matching 425A cab
1966 Fender Bandmaster
Effects: MXR:M234 Analog Chorus, Phase90, Slash Octave Fuzz, Slash SC95 Wah. BOSS: RV-3 & DD3 Reverb & Delay, GE-7 EQ,NS-2 Noise Suppressor, CS-3 Compression Sustainer
Guitars: 6 Les Pauls with Seymour Duncan Alnico 2 Pro Pickups.

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