1974x vrs 2061x

[Nugget]

I would like to know how you think these two amps compair? I am thinking about adding another Marshall to my collection and these are the two that interest me at this time. The clip of since Ive been loveing you with the 2061x was just beautiful.

[Papus]

Thanks Nugget!
SIBLY was my clip.
That's my 2061x modded with a cascade mod, so don't judge the 1974x or 2061x against my modded clip.
The stock 2061x is a better amp then the 1974x IMHO.
Being non-MV amps the only way to get them to sing is to DIME them :)
They are loud - I've metered my 2061x at 112dB.
Good luck with your quest - you can't really go wrong with either of these two amps!

[aristotle]

I don't have the 1974x, but have played through a few of them. I do have the 2061x, and I agree with Papus, I like it better.... If nothing else, I like the option to pair it with different speakers. I'm surprised at the 112dB level that Papus recorded because while I agree it's loud for a 20 watt amp, the thing I like about it most is that I can gig with it totally dimed and it's very manageable. I usually put it through a 2x12 of some ilk, so maybe that's part of it. I keep meaning to look into the cascade mod since Papus' demo of it sounds so nice, but I assure you that even the unmodded one is super nice.

One might argue that at the cost of the 2061x, you might just as well go out and get a YJM and scale it back to 20 watts. As much as I like the YJM, and even though I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it, it just isn't the same as the 2061x dimed. It has a ton of other features, which is nice, and the power scaling really does work much better than I expected..but it isn't the same (to me at least.)

[Nugget]

I don't have the 1974x, but have played through a few of them. I do have the 2061x, and I agree with Papus, I like it better.... If nothing else, I like the option to pair it with different speakers. I'm surprised at the 112dB level that Papus recorded because while I agree it's loud for a 20 watt amp, the thing I like about it most is that I can gig with it totally dimed and it's very manageable. I usually put it through a 2x12 of some ilk, so maybe that's part of it. I keep meaning to look into the cascade mod since Papus' demo of it sounds so nice, but I assure you that even the unmodded one is super nice.

One might argue that at the cost of the 2061x, you might just as well go out and get a YJM and scale it back to 20 watts. As much as I like the YJM, and even though I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it, it just isn't the same as the 2061x dimed. It has a ton of other features, which is nice, and the power scaling really does work much better than I expected..but it isn't the same (to me at least.)

I am not suprised at the 112db I have mesured my class 5 at 107db, with the stock 10". I had my super Reverb out at a jam session with 12 musicians all together , when I got home I checked the volume I had been playing was 110db that was the loudest setting for my lead and everyone said I was heard well above the mix. The SR was on 3.5 by the way, but that gave me a bench mark as what it would take in that situation. In a regular band situation in a small club the class 5 should do alright. Running through a larger cabinet would make a difference. The 2061x with a 1 12 could prob. be dimed but through a half stack it might need to be turned back a bit. I am thinking that since I already have the VM2266 and on the LD setting and the master volume dimed, I seem to be getting close to the 2061x tone ( tell me if you think I'm mistaken) I will wait and look for a deal on a used 2061x .