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Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Bailz » 12 Dec 2016, 06:13

Hi guys,

I've been working recently to take my playing "out of the box" as it were, e.g. with modes or the different pentatonic shapes. They all seem to make a lot of sense. However, what is the 'best' way to memorise these things? Obviously I don't want to memorise the "box" patterns/shapes as that defeats the purpose, but remember the note names or the intervals as the scale "building blocks"? What works best for you?

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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby gainaddict » 12 Dec 2016, 07:12

I learn a lot from solos/licks which combinate between the "boxes".
Try to learn as many as you can and understand their build/shapes and logic.
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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Mike_LA » 12 Dec 2016, 13:41

I've had luck recently going to you tube and typing in "Name your Key" backing track.

Once I find one that I like, I find where my matching patterns (boxes) fit then play the missing notes as I jam along.
From that, I can find which other notes sound good and find them in all of the other places on the neck as I go around.

Pretty valuable resource and has helped me quite a bit over the past 6 months.

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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Cousin Muely » 12 Dec 2016, 13:49

Mike_LA wrote:I've had luck recently going to you tube and typing in "Name your Key" backing track.

Once I find one that I like, I find where my matching patterns (boxes) fit then play the missing notes as I jam along.
From that, I can find which other notes sound good and find them in all of the other places on the neck as I go around.

Pretty valuable resource and has helped me quite a bit over the past 6 months.

Best of luck

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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Alpeggio » 12 Dec 2016, 15:54

My advice is to learn the 5 Pentatonic modes and how they fit together.
Learn them as box shapes. This way you'll know where you are at all times.

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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Bailz » 13 Dec 2016, 01:33

So I guess learn the individual shapes and then jam some, for example, G backing tracks using position 2, and then 3, etc... Then look at moving between the positions as part of the same solo?

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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Alpeggio » 14 Dec 2016, 03:42

Learning scales as patterns, that your mind can superimpose on the fretboard is much more efficient than learning intervals.

But yes you must then learn to slide, bend or jump between the boxes, so they are a help, not a restriction.

Also know that a Pentatonic scale is considered to be a Natural scale with 2 notes removed, to make it more melodic.
The minor pentatonic for example is a natural minor scale with the 2nd and 6th notes removed.

The notes which are left are still named the same as if they were in a natural 7 note scale. For example the 2nd note in a Pentatonic minor is still called the minor 3rd.
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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Bailz » 14 Dec 2016, 03:44

Alpeggio wrote:Also know that a Pentatonic scale is considered to be a Natural scale with 2 notes removed, to make it more melodic.
The minor pentatonic for example is a natural minor scale with the 2nd and 6th notes removed.

The notes which are left are still named the same as if they were in a natural 7 note scale. For example the 2nd note in a Pentatonic minor is still called the minor 3rd.


I guess the removal of 2 and 6 makes the scale more applicable to more chord progressions? E.g. using A minor pentatonic over A, D, and E chords?

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Re: Pentatonic Shapes/Modes

Postby Alpeggio » 14 Dec 2016, 03:51

That's a good point, yeah.
It's a great scale, and with less notes to clash with, you can use it more easily over chords.
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