Valves in original Slash "34?

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Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 23 Jul 2011, 02:37

In the investigation video on the AFD site for the AFD100 you can see the valves in Slash original #34 amp. Are they 6550´s or KT88´s?
If KT88´s then maybe you should have that to really capture his "34 tone. Maybe it gets less trebly then.

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby surfnorthwest » 23 Jul 2011, 07:30

Wouldn't a eq pedal or something like the BBE Sonic Maximizer really be a simple way to beef up the #34?

Seems to me the #34 may sound thin by itself for a bedroom player but I have yet to hear anyone say that it does not sound good in a band mix. Perhaps it is voiced this way to really cut through in a live setting?
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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 23 Jul 2011, 09:16

I don´t think it sounds thin more that it might feel thin when you play on it. I was more curious since you see the valves in Slash actual "34 amp on the video. But i can´t really tell if it´s 6550´s or KT88´s. I´ve read before the AFD that Slash used KT88´s in his amps for the clean sound and EL34´s for his dirty sound.

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby santiall » 23 Jul 2011, 18:14

6550

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 24 Jul 2011, 03:04

santiall wrote:6550
Thank you!
I think my AFD sounds better with these than the EL34´s. It´s not a big difference but it sounds a little bit fatter with 6550´s i think. I would like to try it with KT88´s but seems a bit unnecessary to buy them if i don´t like them.

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 24 Jul 2011, 18:02

Mats A wrote:
santiall wrote:6550
Thank you!
I think my AFD sounds better with these than the EL34´s. It´s not a big difference but it sounds a little bit fatter with 6550´s i think. I would like to try it with KT88´s but seems a bit unnecessary to buy them if i don´t like them.
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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 25 Jul 2011, 02:10

But did he ever really use the Jubilees in the studio? Hasn´t he mostly used his "34 amp? Didn´t he also so use some graphic EQ for the UYI albums?

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 25 Jul 2011, 21:33

Mats A wrote:But did he ever really use the Jubilees in the studio? Hasn´t he mostly used his "34 amp? Didn´t he also so use some graphic EQ for the UYI albums?
Guitar to amp for UYI, the only things he used was a chorus pedal for a few songs,talk box and wah other than that the sounds were 10 different guitars.

His first use of the Jubilee in an official studio recording was for Velvet Revolvers song "You Got No Right" in 2004. Since then he's used the Jubilee a few times off and on. But the #34 covers 90% of everything he's done in the studio up to and including his solo Album "Slash" from last year, and including his new solo album he's making with Myles Kennedy right now.
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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 26 Jul 2011, 14:51

But i think i have some old guitar mag somewhere where he talks about using a graphic on UYI. He had some feedback thing with a speaker or cab in the control room where he played also.
You mean he ain´t using his AFD on the record? Why!

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 26 Jul 2011, 17:19

Mats A wrote:But i think i have some old guitar mag somewhere where he talks about using a graphic on UYI. He had some feedback thing with a speaker or cab in the control room where he played also.
You mean he ain´t using his AFD on the record? Why!
You are right about him having an amp in the control room, it was actually a Mesa amplifier and some sort of speaker device he made (forgot what kind of Mesa) He used it just for feedback purposes.

The EQ Slash used during the UYI Era is a Boss GE-7 and it was used Live as mid boost for solos as well as sometimes used to boost the front end depending on the venue & the feel he wanted for the night.The only song I can think of him obviously using the GE-7 on would be on Locomotive for some of the Rhythm & Leads as he did all the recorded guitar work on that track both rhythm & lead, the rest of them all had the same vibe & tone other than some songs he used different guitars on but the tone difference isn't all that big, but the most obvious amp tone change would be on some of the things on Locomotive, which appears to have a pretty high mid boost in. Below is his exact EQ & settings from UYI...though its from the Live Rig he used with the Jubilees.

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Well the AFD has the #34 mode :Thumbs and he'll probably still use his #34 but he very well may use the AFD mode for something, he said on his facebook that Marshall gave him a limited edition AFD100!. Who knows he may even use a VM. But the main amp will be the original #34 head he used on UYI and everything since.
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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 27 Jul 2011, 05:18

Ok, did he use the EQ in the loop or always in front of the amp? What is the limited edition AFD100? In what way does it differ from a regular AFD100?

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 28 Jul 2011, 13:26

Mats A wrote:Ok, did he use the EQ in the loop or always in front of the amp? What is the limited edition AFD100? In what way does it differ from a regular AFD100?
Slash went back and fourth on where he stuck the eq, generally it was in front, but sometimes in the loop, depended on the venue and the feel he was shooting for that night.

The limited AFD is a personalized one specifically made for Slash's personal use as a one of a kind. Thats about all anyone outside of Marshall and Slash knows at this time about it.
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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 28 Jul 2011, 13:39

Thought it may be one of the special 100´s that should come out if they ever do. Why keep it a secret.
Thanks Slashwannabe1.

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby santiall » 30 Jul 2011, 00:20

The special editions aren't for slash's personal use or anything. They are cosmetically different amps that will be released in due course. Slash is using completely standard production amps as released

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Re: Valves in original Slash "34?

Postby Mats A » 07 Aug 2011, 12:28

Thank you again Santiago :clap

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