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Cab question

Postby Patrik » 25 Jul 2011, 03:32

Hello!
Just a simple question.
When playing through a standard 1960 cab in mono, do you
use the 4 ohms or the 16 ohms input? Does it really matter?
And yes, I select the same ohm settings on both amp and cab.
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Re: Cab question

Postby Mats A » 25 Jul 2011, 05:53

As long as you have the same on both amp and cab it doesn´t matter. Some say that the 4 and 16 Ohm sound different.

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Re: Cab question

Postby Patrik » 25 Jul 2011, 12:36

Does it sound different then do you think? I don't really know.
Must be something wrong with my ears :think
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Re: Cab question

Postby Mats A » 25 Jul 2011, 14:06

I always use the 16 Ohm input if the cab has one. Some older 4x12 cabs here in sweden have only 8 Ohms. Actually i´ve never compared the sound. But if there is a difference i think it´s rather small, maybe not even noticeble. But some i´m sure will tell you there is a big difference. There is so much believing and hype when it comes to guitar gear. But then hearing is believing. :shredder

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Re: Cab question

Postby JkGriffin » 25 Jul 2011, 14:33

Mats A wrote:I always use the 16 Ohm input if the cab has one. Some older 4x12 cabs here in sweden have only 8 Ohms. Actually i´ve never compared the sound. But if there is a difference i think it´s rather small, maybe not even noticeble. But some i´m sure will tell you there is a big difference. There is so much believing and hype when it comes to guitar gear. But then hearing is believing. :shredder
Well... I just (out of curiosity) tried to compare playing 4ohm (all four speakers) on the 1960AV and 16ohm (all four speakers) and it is different.
I used to think just the same as you said (until one hour ago actually), so I was really surprised by the outcome. I don't know why... it shouldn't make a difference unless there is some sonic phenomena that I'm not aware of... but the 4ohm was really muddy while the 16ohm was more clear and tight. The sound as such was the same, but the quality was better with the 16ohm if you catch my drift... I don't even know if you'll hear difference with other cabinets, but it was quite easy to hear on the 1960AV at least. Using the AFD100 then. Using two speakers (Stereo mode) with 8ohms was not that different from the 16ohm though... it was just not as full. Using 4x12 was more massive sounding. Should mean f*** all for recording purpose unless you play loud and place the microphone so that it captures the entire cabinet rather than one speaker.

Maybe some sound engineer can explain???

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Re: Cab question

Postby Patrik » 25 Jul 2011, 15:34

Thank you guys for your answers.
I've used an 8 ohms 4x12 cab for years (no options there) and
when switching to a 1960 stereo cab I just started to go with
16 ohms because thats the only option with my 2266 head.
I'll try both 4 and 16 tomorrow at rehearsals with the AFD and see if
I can hear any difference.

-- Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:28 pm --

Tried both 4 and 16 ohms today and I think I liked the 16 ohms setting better, but maybe I'm just imagine there is a difference. 3 hours of loud playing does f**k up the hearing a bit.
The AFD works great in a band situation. I don't even use a boost for leads anymore, I just activate the loop set a bit louder with the TC electronic flashback in it, and gain set at 12 o'clock. That's enough for me.
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Re: Cab question

Postby 2008lespaul » 02 Mar 2013, 02:10

I bought "one of the last new heads" a few months ago and have been disappointed with how tonie it was. I could not believe this was the same sound Slash was using on AFD or I&II so I tried every different nob setting, adding effects pedals, plaining it plain, then I switched from 4 ohms to 16 through the same worn in 2003 1960 vintage (w/Britt made v30's), same 6' 14g oxygen free cable, and that made the difference all around. Who knew! I researched it more and have found many references that at 16ohms it allows for a greater bandwidth of the transformer translating into deeper bass and brighter highs...no I was not high when trying this...it may also have to do with the polarty, but that reading was too deep. I understood the former, but the second part, just show me a graph of the sound range and high spots. Bottomline, I am switching all 4 of my heads to 16 ohm configurations with my 2 4x12 cabs.

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