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peter green mod

Postby bluesbrother » 08 Jan 2011, 10:08

Today i did the peter green mod with the neck pickup of my les paul.
The effect is the strongest with both volumes on 8.
I still have all the sounds my guitar had ,plus i have this cool peter
green sound as a extra bonus. It is totally different with push/pull pots
i had on a les paul to go from a humbucker to single coil.
This mod sounds very nassally and hollow/wah like.I do not need the
bare knuckle peter green pickups because the mod worked out fine.
Now i am gonna try to find some tabs for i ''need your love so bad''
from peter green :bgrin

-- Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:32 pm --
bluesbrother wrote:Today i did the peter green mod with the neck pickup of my les paul.
The effect is the strongest with both volumes on 8.
I still have all the sounds my guitar had ,plus i have this cool peter
green sound as a extra bonus. It is totally different with push/pull pots
i had on a les paul to go from a humbucker to single coil.
This mod sounds very nassally and hollow/wah like.I do not need the
bare knuckle peter green pickups because the mod worked out fine.
Now i am gonna try to find some tabs for i ''need your love so bad''
from peter green :bgrin

found the tabs on the net.
This is how it supposed to sound
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Re: peter green mod

Postby Wildone » 08 Jan 2011, 21:27

What is this Peter Green mod?
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No one wants to hear 64 bars full of 32nd-notes except the douche-bag blowing them from the stage.

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Re: peter green mod

Postby bluesbrother » 09 Jan 2011, 01:15

wildone wrote:What is this Peter Green mod?
Peter green tech put his guitar together in the wrong way ,and
so by coincedence they discovered this sound.
What you do is taking the neck pickup out remove the cover and
turn the magnet over. When the selektor is in the middle and both
pickups are on the sound is OUT OF PHASE . The les paul now has
a thin nasally sound .

This video demo shows how to do this.
I did it myself so probably any fool can do it :bgrin
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Re: peter green mod

Postby Kyle » 14 Jan 2011, 14:33

Why not just wired up the main hot and cold backwards overall , there is your out of phase pickups, without all the hastle of changing the magnet around? I mean that is effectively what the tech did in the first place. Better yet get a push pull pot to get a phase change switch (in the process of that for my C66 so I can get a tone like this, I initially wired the neck PUP out of phase by accident.)

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Re: peter green mod

Postby Don » 14 Jan 2011, 16:59

Kyle wrote:Why not just wired up the main hot and cold backwards overall , there is your out of phase pickups, without all the hastle of changing the magnet around? I mean that is effectively what the tech did in the first place. Better yet get a push pull pot to get a phase change switch (in the process of that for my C66 so I can get a tone like this, I initially wired the neck PUP out of phase by accident.)
You can't do that easily to a guitar with an original Gibson humbucker because the pickup only has one lead and a shield. Swapping them makes the shield (and the pickup's baseplate and cover) hot. This can be done but can create a lot of noise.

On a guitar with multiple leads you can simply swap the wires. The pickup doesn't know the difference! In fact, I added a lead to my Duncan Seth lover bridge pickup and also a Gibson '57 Classic to allow phase switching.

Also, it doesn't matter which pickup you put out of phase.

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Re: peter green mod

Postby Kyle » 15 Jan 2011, 08:47

Don wrote:
Kyle wrote:Why not just wired up the main hot and cold backwards overall , there is your out of phase pickups, without all the hastle of changing the magnet around? I mean that is effectively what the tech did in the first place. Better yet get a push pull pot to get a phase change switch (in the process of that for my C66 so I can get a tone like this, I initially wired the neck PUP out of phase by accident.)
You can't do that easily to a guitar with an original Gibson humbucker because the pickup only has one lead and a shield. Swapping them makes the shield (and the pickup's baseplate and cover) hot. This can be done but can create a lot of noise.

On a guitar with multiple leads you can simply swap the wires. The pickup doesn't know the difference! In fact, I added a lead to my Duncan Seth lover bridge pickup and also a Gibson '57 Classic to allow phase switching.

Also, it doesn't matter which pickup you put out of phase.
Thanks for the info Don, I figured you would have had hot cold and shield, but it seems cold goes to shield in the cover?

I accidentally wired my neck pickup out of phase at first when I redid my stuff (well it made sense to me at first, both were going clockwise :whatever . Then I fixed it and realized I might actually prefer the other sound. I have a second push pot coming in, to install as a phase switch under the tone pot (under volume pot is a solo switch, aka bypass volume and tone pot).

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Re: peter green mod

Postby BluesDoggydog » 16 Mar 2012, 11:30

hey guys, i want to do this mod on my les paul, at the moment i have push/pull potts for coil tapping but i dont really mind that so i want to rewire it to a push/pull out of phase on the neck pickup, how would i do this? which is the hot and cold etc :) Pictures are very appreciated not a big fan of schematics but i guess i have to learn some time.
Thanks

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