DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

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DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Peveo » 14 Mar 2018, 10:23

The new DSL1HR seems a nice amp to have to me but ....why only a 16ohm speaker connection?
What will go first if y connect that amp to a 1936 8ohm cab? The amp or my speaker cab?
Connect only one speaker is no option, y do want the whole cab..

Besides that, anyone got some experience with this little Marshall...
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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Anitoli » 14 Mar 2018, 10:39

The manual shows the back and the speaker out states " 1 watt @ 16 ohm ( 8 ohm minimum). " As long as you do not go below 8 ohms you should be fine.

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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Cousin Muely » 14 Mar 2018, 11:29

I haven't seen the manual but going on Sweetwater's pics it doesn't say 8 ohm minimum on the back of the head. Now, the 50th DSL1 does have that 16-8 ohm capability though.

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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Anitoli » 14 Mar 2018, 21:19

Ahh there is an error then because the Marshall website lists it as a DSL1H omitting the R. So disregard my advice, the newer DSL1HR is only set for a 16 ohm load.

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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Peveo » 15 Mar 2018, 11:11

Precis, anitoli..just a 16 ohm cab will do...
Y do wander why Marshall has decided to not make an DSL1HR with more impedance outputs. To me it makes no sense and it limits the sales rates y think....
well... there are still the Origin ( still not available )and the DSL20HR....
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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby skinnyj » 15 Mar 2018, 13:15

My knowledge on this is a little shaky, but if you have a 2x12 or a 4x12 you could have it wired to operate at 8 or 16 ohms depending on what speakers are in there:

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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Anitoli » 15 Mar 2018, 21:31

If the speakers are all 16 ohm's then a 2x12 can be wired for ( assuming you are not using a dual input stereo function) 8 only. If the speakers in a 2x12 are 8 ohms then you can get 4 or 16 ohms. A 4x12 with 16's will give you 16 or 4 ohms. This is pretty much the standard with tube cabinets.

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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Peveo » 16 Mar 2018, 05:29

So, we have a DSL1 with only a 16 ohm output an in case of a 1936 cab ( like y have) you can safely connect the amp to a single stereo input on the cab and use only one speaker.
But...will a split jack cable work? Using the 16ohm out and connect to both 16ohm inputs on the cab with the mono jack split cable....
Anyone tried this yet in other situations......
just a thought...
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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby skinnyj » 16 Mar 2018, 06:38

You could always call or e-mail Marshall and ask them if 16 into 8 can be done.


Never mind...

I just looked at the manual. That is really curious design decision... :think
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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Anitoli » 16 Mar 2018, 07:01

Peveo wrote:So, we have a DSL1 with only a 16 ohm output an in case of a 1936 cab ( like y have) you can safely connect the amp to a single stereo input on the cab and use only one speaker.
But...will a split jack cable work? Using the 16ohm out and connect to both 16ohm inputs on the cab with the mono jack split cable....
Anyone tried this yet in other situations......
just a thought...
A split jack cable would more than likely put the speakers in parallel in which two 16's would become 8 ohms.

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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby skinnyj » 16 Mar 2018, 07:08

Peveo wrote:So, we have a DSL1 with only a 16 ohm output an in case of a 1936 cab ( like y have) you can safely connect the amp to a single stereo input on the cab and use only one speaker.
But...will a split jack cable work? Using the 16ohm out and connect to both 16ohm inputs on the cab with the mono jack split cable....
Anyone tried this yet in other situations......
just a thought...
I would say no on the split signal because you are turning it from 16 ohms back into 8 ohms. For example, if you have a stereo power amp, each side has a separate amp seeing 16 ohms. On a mono amp it would be seeing 16 ohms x 2 in parallel, thus going back to 8 ohms.
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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby skinnyj » 16 Mar 2018, 08:24

You could always get a second DSL1 and plug that into the other jack... :bgrin
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Re: DSL1HR on a 8 ohm cab?

Postby Anitoli » 16 Mar 2018, 09:01

Peveo wrote:So, we have a DSL1 with only a 16 ohm output an in case of a 1936 cab ( like y have) you can safely connect the amp to a single stereo input on the cab and use only one speaker.
But...will a split jack cable work? Using the 16ohm out and connect to both 16ohm inputs on the cab with the mono jack split cable....
Anyone tried this yet in other situations......
just a thought...
Since the amp only has one speaker out your options are pretty much this:

One single speaker 16 ohm cab.

2x12 with two 8's for a 16 ohm total.

4x12 with four 16's for a 16 ohm total.

Any other cabinet with 10 or 8 inch or whatever size you want that stays at the same ohm rating can be used.

i would not use any type of "y" splitter to attempt another configuration as these are mostly intended for small signal applications, not the handling of output power as these are normally shielded cables whereas speaker cables are un-shielded.

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