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I think it was Surf who did a test recently and got 128dbs out of his 2466 Vintage Modern! Thats more than a DSL100s 119db and a few db's more than somebody who did a 2203 test recently as well (I'll have to find the article and post later). The smooth sound makes the VMs volume deceptive, where as a JCM 800 has a high amount of treble & mids and "appears" louder also the fact that the volume control on a JCM 800 jumps in volume more than the VM's more managable Master Volume Control. Think of it this way...JCM 800s volume control basically goes to 6 and the Vintage Moderns goes to 10 (or 11 if you're a Spinal Tap fan!). Theres not much more volume past 6 on a JCM 800 in my expeirence.TubeStack wrote: plenty of volume when needed but is not as crushingly loud as a 2203 or 1959.
The total sound level from an amp is totally dependent on the efficiency of the speakers. You can only successfully compare the two amps if your speakers are the same between the two amps. That should account for at least some of the difference in sound levels.Slashwannabe1 wrote:I think it was Surf who did a test recently and got 128dbs out of his 2466 Vintage Modern! Thats more than a DSL100s 119db and a few db's more than somebody who did a 2203 test recently as well (I'll have to find the article and post later). The smooth sound makes the VMs volume deceptive, where as a JCM 800 has a high amount of treble & mids and "appears" louder also the fact that the volume control on a JCM 800 jumps in volume more than the VM's more managable Master Volume Control. Think of it this way...JCM 800s volume control basically goes to 6 and the Vintage Moderns goes to 10 (or 11 if you're a Spinal Tap fan!). Theres not much more volume past 6 on a JCM 800 in my expeirence.TubeStack wrote: plenty of volume when needed but is not as crushingly loud as a 2203 or 1959.
I gotta say I was at a Rock N Roll Revival show where some guy was using a DSL100 Half stack and that thing was LOUD at that show, my ears were ringing! So its definitely some food for thought to think that the 2466 Vintage Modern is louder than that!.
Well, speaker efficiency is an element to consider, as MKB said. Also, with all due respect to Surf, I don't know if his test should be considered the all-defining, irrefutable answer. It's interesting and notable, for sure (and he's a very cool dude with a great site, of course ). But again, in my experience, even a 50W JCM800 shook the foundations more than my 2466.Slashwannabe1 wrote:I think it was Surf who did a test recently and got 128dbs out of his 2466 Vintage Modern! Thats more than a DSL100s 119db and a few db's more than somebody who did a 2203 test recently as well (I'll have to find the article and post later). The smooth sound makes the VMs volume deceptive, where as a JCM 800 has a high amount of treble & mids and "appears" louder also the fact that the volume control on a JCM 800 jumps in volume more than the VM's more managable Master Volume Control. Think of it this way...JCM 800s volume control basically goes to 6 and the Vintage Moderns goes to 10 (or 11 if you're a Spinal Tap fan!). Theres not much more volume past 6 on a JCM 800 in my expeirence.TubeStack wrote: plenty of volume when needed but is not as crushingly loud as a 2203 or 1959.
I gotta say I was at a Rock N Roll Revival show where some guy was using a DSL100 Half stack and that thing was LOUD at that show, my ears were ringing! So its definitely some food for thought to think that the 2466 Vintage Modern is louder than that!.
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