VM and guitars volume pot..

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VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby johnny » 10 Jan 2010, 05:26

Hi you all!

I've been playin my stratocaster with VM 2266. guitars volume on full it sounds very tasty. But when i rolloff the volume also treble rolloff. My strat is equipped with SD little 59' and 2 fender noiseless. Any suggestions for new volumepot??

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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby TonyC » 10 Jan 2010, 06:17

Do a search for "treble bleed mod". There are a couple of mods to retain the treble when turning the volume knob down.

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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby MKB » 10 Jan 2010, 08:25

+1 on TonyC's suggestion, older PRS guitars came standard with this mod and it works very well. My guitars all do this when plugged directly into the VM, but I usually use a Samson Airline wireless, and the combination of the high impedance transmitter with no cord fixes the problem also. I haven't put the treble bleeds into my main guitars for this reason.

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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby juzi » 10 Jan 2010, 09:05

I used treble bleeds in my guitars for about ten years. I was always searching for the best component values to find the best operation for each guitar. In strat I ended up with 250pF cap in parallel with a 220K resistor. With bigger cap the sound went too thin.

But recently I found the 50's wiring. And it works really well in a strat too. You might want to change the wiring to a master volume, master tone and a blender pot, for example. It sounds and acts more natural when compared to treble bleed. And I love the way it makes tone controls work.

RS has a nice pots, but I find them too stiff for strat pots with light plastic hat. This Bourns pot is better: PDB24 250K log potentiometer (high rotation life). Bourns GTR-series pot is not good for volume because it is really stiff. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby C0ldFart » 10 Jan 2010, 14:30

I've testet different vol pots on my ESP NT-II HORIZON

All pots was audio-type (log)

250k gets darker when rolled back
1M is brighter
and the 500K in between

I've settled with the 250k because of the tone change when rolled back.

Also been trying different treble-bleed solutions until the vol-pot is almost brightening up when rolled down, but settled with only the 250k volpot with no treble-bleed.

Coil split brightens a lot I must say :Thumbs
-=Ketil=-

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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby TonyC » 10 Jan 2010, 16:11

With humbuckers it's ok to use 500k (or higher) pots, but with standard single coils using higher than 250k usually doesn't sound good.

On my strat I have the Vintage '57/'62 pups which are stock on the American Vintage strats. I have 250k pots and no treble bleed mod because I don't get very much high roll-off when rolling back the volume.

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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby bluezguy » 10 Jan 2010, 16:37

johnny wrote:Hi you all!

I've been playin my stratocaster with VM 2266. guitars volume on full it sounds very tasty. But when i rolloff the volume also treble rolloff. My strat is equipped with SD little 59' and 2 fender noiseless. Any suggestions for new volumepot??

Johnny
Johnny,

A GUARANTEED fix would be to purchase a RS Super pot for Strat and their .047mf cap. It would run ya about $20 bucks + shipping. :yea

I bought a brand new American Standard and stuffed it with CS '69s and a complete RS Strat Vintage upgrade kit. It works absolutely 100% like it should. Roll off half of yer volume and you lose NOT ONE flippin' iota of treble! What a great thing... an aftermarket part that actually does what it's marketed to do. :bgrin

I shoulda just bought the cap and pot because the expensive Jensen vintage cap does nothing for ME... the standard Fender tone cap does all you really need it to do. Go to http://www.rsguitarworks.net/rsstore/ to see waz happenin'.
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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby johnny » 10 Jan 2010, 23:55

Rocknroolll!! :yea

Thanks for answers! I think that I may try with bluezguy way.

Thanks!

J

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Re: VM and guitars volume pot..

Postby Jizzmasterzero » 14 Feb 2010, 10:27

Does anyone have before (60's) and after (50's)?

It's just I am considering doing this but would like to here the difference before I burn my fingers off.
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