Body and detail

[Mats A]

Since the body controls the frequenzies from 400Hz and below and detail frequenzies from 400Hz and over. if you set body on 0 and detail on 10 will you not get any frequenzies below 400Hz at all in the tone?

[SteveD]

The Body and Detail aren't steepcut filters Mats.

The response is a roll off.

[Mats A]

Ok, think I got it now . You just get less from from over and under 400Hz. But you get less distortion by turning down the body.

[DogFalcon]

Ok, think I got it now . You just get less from from over and under 400Hz. But you get less distortion by turning down the body.

Right!

That's the point! You feel less "distorted" sound but what you get is less body in the TONE. But you may feel more compressed with Body pot going to max...

I don't think the body and detail of VM as distortion pot's like a pedal or whatever.
I see those two great knobs as the body and soul of the overall TONE of this great amp.
There are so few amps in the market that reacts like VM.
Rolling the Master Volume also has effect on Body And Detail. So much interaction in here.
This amp is so amazing.
Keep experimenting. That's the key.
Different guitars will have different effect/tone, also.

Loving it everyday...

[auss81]

Right!

That's the point! You feel less "distorted" sound but what you get is less body in the TONE. But you may feel more compressed with Body pot going to max...

I don't think the body and detail of VM as distortion pot's like a pedal or whatever.
I see those two great knobs as the body and soul of the overall TONE of this great amp.
There are so few amps in the market that reacts like VM.
Rolling the Master Volume also has effect on Body And Detail. So much interaction in here.
This amp is so amazing.
Keep experimenting. That's the key.
Different guitars will have different effect/tone, also.

Loving it everyday...

That's so true...... I love it, and the KT66 are just amazing tubes!

About body and detail, I read somewhere on the web that these two controls act like the 4 input in a Plexi...... Body could be the 2 NORMAL inputs, while Detail could be the 2 HIGH TREBLE inputs......
Could this be true expecially in LDR mode? Or is it only a somewhat stupid theory?

Obviously they are 2 interactive controls and this makes the VM an incredibly versatile amp! Really I can't understand why here in Italy, in the Marshallitalia forum, some people don't like this amp......
IMHO it's the most innovative Marshall amp, a true big step ahead in combining innovation and tradition! No other words to describe it :dance

[DeanM]

should be relabeled "Meat and Gravy" !!!!! haha! nah just kiddin body and detail describe it pretty well!

[Slashwannabe1]

should be relabeled "Meat and Gravy" !!!!! haha! nah just kiddin body and detail describe it pretty well!

I'd be fine with both terms... but Detail and Body describe it in the proper professional way haha

[VMGravy]

should be relabeled "Meat and Gravy" !!!!! haha! nah just kiddin body and detail describe it pretty well!

+1, Gravy it is.

[Mats A]

Guess it´s not really like jumping channels on a 4 holer Marshall. There is one channel treble boosted and one not.

[DeanM]

should be relabeled "Meat and Gravy" !!!!! haha! nah just kiddin body and detail describe it pretty well!

+1, Gravy it is.

Hmmm....VMGravy...is that a biased opinion?? :dance
Ok tahts settled then!! lets start a petition!!

[MKB]

About body and detail, I read somewhere on the web that these two controls act like the 4 input in a Plexi...... Body could be the 2 NORMAL inputs, while Detail could be the 2 HIGH TREBLE inputs......
Could this be true expecially in LDR mode? Or is it only a somewhat stupid theory?

Actually this is generally correct. Steve has a few additional tricks in there, but it is a good general description of what the knobs are doing. They have the same function in LDR and HDR modes.

The input jack of the VM feeds the grids of both halves of V1, very similar to the jumper lead many players add between channels I and II on a Plexi.

[DeanM]

Well, to be contrary, I would've called it "Meat and 'Taters."

yeah but with 'Taters they add more low mids and the tone can sometimes be muddy! ya dont get the same harmonic overtones!! hence thats where gravy comes in! it takes the dryness out and ands to the flavour of the meat!!