425V vs 1960X vs 1960TV...Anyone tried them all with VM?

[DogFalcon]

425V vs 1960X vs 1960TV...Anyone tried them all with VM?

I'm about to buy a 4x12 cabinet. My 2266 deserves that. But I'm not yet decide which one to buy.
I play anything from Classic Rock/Blues to early Heavy Metal/Trash Metal and progressive Rock/Metal. But I need a cab that brings vintage tone, full rounded, tight lows but smooth shimmering tops. I don't care about bringing volume and loudness to top. I do care about TONE.
A friend of mine says that V30's loaded cabinet suits best for me...But I love, also, the Greenbacks and that vintage touch that they have. The 1960TV is a sexy cabinet; taller than the others. Might be different, tonewise, also.
I wish I could have a possibility to try them all but that's not possible. Dealers don't have those cabinets at the same time just for me to try! :)
Need opinions.

What do you think?
Thanks.

[Rockerduck]

I use a 1960av with my 2466 and it suits me just fine.

[DEXMAN]

I RUN MY 2266 THRU A 1960 CLASSIC CAB WITH 25W GREENBACKS - SOUNDS GREAT. I PLAY ROCK AND EARLY STYLE METAL WITH A GIBSON LES PAUL CLASSIC 1960, WORKS WELL FOR ME, ALMOST LOVE IT AS MUCH AS MY OLD 1959

[surfnorthwest]

If you can take your head somewhere that will allow you to try some cabinets try to do that. Asking for opinions when comes to speaker tone is like asking a table of drunk guys when the bar is closing if they like blonds or brunettes.

I have tried about every damm speaker Celelstion makes and about every cabinet Marshall has made. For the VM IMO I vote in this order (assuming you are sticking with Marshall cabs).

1. 1960AX/BX
2. 425A/B
3. 1960AHW/BHW
4. 1960TV
5. 1960AV/BV
6. 1960A/B

This list the ranges of cabinets Marshall offers, "A" stands for Angled cabs and "B" stands for bottom or straight cabs. I also prefer the bass projection from a straight cab over a angled cab.

[Doc Holliday]

I used mine with an 0range 4/12 with v30s. A Marshall 4/12 fitted with 70s G12H speakers, the vintage modern 4/12 cab but settled with The 1960AX.

It sounds warm and goes great with all Marshall heads ive owned. My DSL sounds great through it and im sure my YJM will also when I get it

[DogFalcon]

If you can take your head somewhere that will allow you to try some cabinets try to do that. Asking for opinions when comes to speaker tone is like asking a table of drunk guys when the bar is closing if they like blonds or brunettes.

:pimp

Yeah! I know that. But sometimes opinions may bring some influence when it comes to choose something. That's what foruns are for.
I've tried a couple ones from friends of mine and local shops but not the Marshall cabs.
And it's a boring and unffair comparision because almost all cabs sound very good. It's like EQing the amp. And there is a big factor, also. My ears. If I'm tired after a full blown day work maybe I'm not in the mood and the perception of your tone is not the same. I think I'm going to narrow choices for Greenback equipped models...Still searching...

[Yaff]

I have tried about every damm speaker Celelstion makes and about every cabinet Marshall has made. For the VM IMO I vote in this order (assuming you are sticking with Marshall cabs).

1. 1960AX/BX
2. 425A/B
3. 1960AHW/BHW
4. 1960TV
5. 1960AV/BV
6. 1960A/B

This list the ranges of cabinets Marshall offers, "A" stands for Angled cabs and "B" stands for bottom or straight cabs. I also prefer the bass projection from a straight cab over a angled cab.

I totally agree about the 425 being up there in the top 2, but would say the 1960a sounds nasty with the VM.

Although I haven`t had the chance to try out the 1960ax, read lots of positive review about it. Will have a play some day, but no rush as I am so pleased with the tone from my 425b.

All the best

[surfnorthwest]

The AX/BX sound a little smoother than the 425 to me but the 425 is a great match for the VM and many other amps also. I just like the checkered vintage look more than anything else with them.

[Wildone]

Surf's right, the Marshall 425 cabinet is one that just sounds so good with a Vintage Modern. I have tried it with my 1959HW and it also sounds incredible. But I am going to have to throw the 425 under the bus in favor of the 1960AHW cabinet, the Celestion G12H-30s gives you that vintage Marshall sound that no other cabinet I have played can. It cost only a couple hundred more and I think they look and sound the best.

Here you go. What you are looking at is the best amp combination I know of. No pedals just this amp and cabinet.... any doubters. The only thing I have ever heard that comes close is the 2466 and the 425 so I bought that too.

[gtrman]

Just love seeing the 1960AHW .... it's a truly beautiful cabinet !
Don't have a Plexi ... yet .. can't wait to try the cab out with the YJM once it arrives.

[Blenderhead]

Surf's right, the Marshall 425 cabinet is one that just sounds so good with a Vintage Modern. I have tried it with my 1959HW and it also sounds incredible. But I am going to have to throw the 425 under the bus in favor of the 1960AHW cabinet, the Celestion G12H-30s gives you that vintage Marshall sound that no other cabinet I have played can. It cost only a couple hundred more and I think they look and sound the best.

Here you go. What you are looking at is the best amp combination I know of. No pedals just this amp and cabinet.... any doubters. The only thing I have ever heard that comes close is the 2466 and the 425 so I bought that too.

probably the greatest combo ever....!!!

[Slashwannabe1]

Bring a dog into the music store and which ever cab it pisses on buy it!.
In all seriousness, You really gotta try cabs, and you also really gotta try many of the same ones to get familiar with their tone because of various points of "break-in" that they could be in.

The only way choosing a speaker cab is easy is if you know of an Artists tone that you like and you go out and buy the same cab, a lot of people frown upon using gear just because a celeb uses it but honestly if you like the tone and want to get something like it you basically have no other choice.

Or you could paper,rock,scissors a friend between V30s & Greenbacks! no lose situation there.

[DogFalcon]

Surf's right, the Marshall 425 cabinet is one that just sounds so good with a Vintage Modern. I have tried it with my 1959HW and it also sounds incredible. But I am going to have to throw the 425 under the bus in favor of the 1960AHW cabinet, the Celestion G12H-30s gives you that vintage Marshall sound that no other cabinet I have played can. It cost only a couple hundred more and I think they look and sound the best.

Here you go. What you are looking at is the best amp combination I know of. No pedals just this amp and cabinet.... any doubters. The only thing I have ever heard that comes close is the 2466 and the 425 so I bought that too.

Just beautiful...

-- Thu May 12, 2011 8:32 am --

Bring a dog into the music store and which ever cab it pisses on buy it!.
In all seriousness, You really gotta try cabs, and you also really gotta try many of the same ones to get familiar with their tone because of various points of "break-in" that they could be in.

The only way choosing a speaker cab is easy is if you know of an Artists tone that you like and you go out and buy the same cab, a lot of people frown upon using gear just because a celeb uses it but honestly if you like the tone and want to get something like it you basically have no other choice.

Or you could paper,rock,scissors a friend between V30s & Greenbacks! no lose situation there.

Yeah!
Like I said. It's not a easy and pleasant task. But in the end I know that any cab I get it will sound great.
I'm into vintage modern conception. Like Marshall Vintage Modern. A vintage amp concept with modern features. I want a vintage tone cab but versatil. To play, almost, anything.
I was looking for the TV because of the looks and I think being taller maybe I'd get a rounder bassier feelling. I haven't tried one yet. I'm negociating with dealer so he can bring a couple Marshall cabs so i can test.
Your opinions are very useful.
Thanks.

[Mats A]

The AX/BX sound a little smoother than the 425 to me but the 425 is a great match for the VM and many other amps also. I just like the checkered vintage look more than anything else with them.

Smoother? I think in the demo clips you made with the G12M and G12C the G12M had a bit more high end treble to them.