Switching channels: the basics

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Switching channels: the basics

Postby Motorbreath » 13 Dec 2009, 16:02

This is how you switch channels:

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Seeing this on MTVm, I was lost forever. I've seen it a zillion times. Epic rock'n'roll. Now I know why they're constantly reaching for their volume and tone pots :)

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby Lordakamai » 14 Dec 2009, 13:04

I LOVE THAT GIG!!!! :jam (both guitars sound awesome btw)
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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby ironlung40 » 15 Dec 2009, 15:53

Slash is cool, and a good player, but Axle can SUCK IT!! He's such an asshole faker. My opinion of course. Both guitars do sound amazing in this gig though. I wish the drums were a bit boomier.

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby slowpokerhino » 15 Dec 2009, 16:14

ironlung40 wrote:Slash is cool, and a good player, but Axle can SUCK IT!!
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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby surfnorthwest » 15 Dec 2009, 16:39

He's such an asshole
Not opinion, fact.
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'When I Don't Have Anything Interesting to Play, I just Play Fast' But then who wants to hear 64 bars full of 32nd-notes except the douche-bag blowing them from the stage.


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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby Murfdog » 15 Dec 2009, 17:45

I had the uncensored version of this show when I was a kid. I used to watch it over and over. The title of your post is very funny to me. I was eleven years old when this was shown on MTV, and I always wondered why Slash didn't use a footswitch. I had no idea back then that there was such a thing as a single channel amp. I wonder if the younger people watching me play now are thinking the same thing....."man, that guy can't even afford a footswitch"!

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby ClubAndCountry » 16 Dec 2009, 03:48

Considering that he was using channel-switching Marshall Jubilee amps (or his signature model, which is the same thing), that exactly proves the point I've been making in the other thread, doesn't it?! Thank you :-).

It does *not* matter whether an amp is "single channel" or "channel switching", it depends on how you use it... switching just gives you more options and control, which you can use, or not.

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby gitarenkraak » 16 Dec 2009, 08:14

ClubAndCountry wrote:Considering that he was using channel-switching Marshall Jubilee amps (or his signature model, which is the same thing), that exactly proves the point I've been making in the other thread, doesn't it?! Thank you :-).

It does *not* matter whether an amp is "single channel" or "channel switching", it depends on how you use it... switching just gives you more options and control, which you can use, or not.
well, not really, in this particular clip he was not using the jubilee, but a jcm 800 single channel amp, and when he did use the jube's, he didn't switch channels on them, he had two set up for his dirty sound, and two for his clean sound

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby ironlung40 » 16 Dec 2009, 08:47

I didn't think he was using his signature amps in this vid. I saw one video on youtube, I think it was "sweet child of mine" not sure now, but I saw his backline and they were JCM 800 2210's or 2205's. I distinctly saw the knob configuration and rocker switches, and they were the dual channel 800's for sure. the slash model has 3 rocker switches doesn't it. I didn't see what he used in this vid, I never knew he used single channel 800's like gitarenkrak said. I know one thing he had some serious crunch going on while using the "my presumption 2210". I've got one in the closet that I don't use. It makes me want to haul it out.

What kind of pickups does he have in his "assuming" les paul custom there?

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 16 Dec 2009, 08:55

gitarenkraak wrote:
well, not really, in this particular clip he was not using the jubilee, but a jcm 800 single channel amp, and when he did use the jube's, he didn't switch channels on them, he had two set up for his dirty sound, and two for his clean sound
Open YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIDN'T YOU SEE THE SILVER AMP/CABS?

Deffinitly 2 Jubilee stacks in there Visable at 3:50.

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby ironlung40 » 16 Dec 2009, 10:41

I thought I saw the silver in that too, but at the moment my highspeed is out so I'm surfing old school and did not want to reload the vid. Thanks for the pickup info slashwannabe. those jubes sound sweet, but I think I prefer the rawer 800 tone I heard in the other video. Could be a lot of other factors too with the recording, etc.

We need one of those slash avatars with the hat, hair, and cig.

-- Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:43 pm --
slowpokerhino wrote:
ironlung40 wrote:Slash is cool, and a good player, but Axle can SUCK IT!!
:laugh :laugher :Thumbs
:bgrin

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 16 Dec 2009, 11:41

ironlung40 wrote:I thought I saw the silver in that too, but at the moment my highspeed is out so I'm surfing old school and did not want to reload the vid. Thanks for the pickup info slashwannabe. those jubes sound sweet, but I think I prefer the rawer 800 tone I heard in the other video. Could be a lot of other factors too with the recording, etc.

We need one of those slash avatars with the hat, hair, and cig.

-- Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:43 pm --
slowpokerhino wrote:
ironlung40 wrote:Slash is cool, and a good player, but Axle can SUCK IT!!
:laugh :laugher :Thumbs
:bgrin
The Jubilees are a little more juicy and smoother than the JCM 800s thats for sure.

But an awesome JCM 800 Tone was on the Use Your Illusions Albums. A JCM 800 2210 with 65/50 output tubes into a 100 watt Greenback cab Pre amp on 2 and master volume on 9 for that awesome output distortion! Same guitar with Alnico 2's that recorded Appetite also recorded 95% of the Illusions albums and nearly every Slash record since.

If memory serves me correct the Les Paul copy guitar in the Ritz video is quite possibly the same one that he used on every record he ever played on! I know he had 2 Les Paul copies he used on the early tours prior to the Use Your Illusions tour and I believe one of them was the main recording guitar.
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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby gitarenkraak » 16 Dec 2009, 12:30

Slashwannabe1 wrote:
gitarenkraak wrote:
well, not really, in this particular clip he was not using the jubilee, but a jcm 800 single channel amp, and when he did use the jube's, he didn't switch channels on them, he had two set up for his dirty sound, and two for his clean sound
Open YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIDN'T YOU SEE THE SILVER AMP/CABS?

Deffinitly 2 Jubilee stacks in there Visable at 3:50.

The Signature Slash Model came out in 1996. All his Guitars had Seymore Duncan Alnico 2 Pros from the moment he recorded Appetite.
it's hard to see if they're actually jube's, i read an article on another forum where they said he used a 2203 at that show and had the 2210 either for backup or clean sounds :think

-- Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:01 pm --
gitarenkraak wrote:
Slashwannabe1 wrote:
gitarenkraak wrote:
well, not really, in this particular clip he was not using the jubilee, but a jcm 800 single channel amp, and when he did use the jube's, he didn't switch channels on them, he had two set up for his dirty sound, and two for his clean sound
Open YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIDN'T YOU SEE THE SILVER AMP/CABS?

Deffinitly 2 Jubilee stacks in there Visable at 3:50.

The Signature Slash Model came out in 1996. All his Guitars had Seymore Duncan Alnico 2 Pros from the moment he recorded Appetite.
it's hard to see if they're actually jube's, i read an article on another forum where they said he used a 2203 at that show and had the 2210 either for backup or clean sounds :think
the amp on the left is definetely not a jub, it only has 2 switches on the left :deney

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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 16 Dec 2009, 16:00

gitarenkraak wrote:it's hard to see if they're actually jube's, i read an article on another forum where they said he used a 2203 at that show and had the 2210 either for backup or clean sounds

the amp on the left is definetely not a jub, it only has 2 switches on the left :deney
Wow you must have X-Ray Vision to spot 2 switchs on a Youtube quality video. you can't honestly tell me you see only 2 switches there on that left amp... its way too blurry on the left amp to make a determination on the left amp for sure.

The right amplifier however is a Sliver Jubilee and even Stevie Wonder can see that. The fact is that is a Jubilee, because the Faceplate is totally Chrome and the tolex is obviously silver.

The left amplifier could also be a Jubilee though "NOT SILVER". They did come in Black during 1988 and then as the Slash model in 1996. I must admit I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the left one once I seen the right was a Jubilee amp and cab.

Besides that the tone you can tell isn't Slash's JCM 800 tone, its much smoother and has more gain depth like later videos of his Jubilees. The signature JCM 800 bite is not there.
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Re: Switching channels: the basics

Postby Murfdog » 16 Dec 2009, 17:34




I watched this video on full screen at youtube, and there actually isn't a Jube at all. The amp on the left is plugged in, and it's a JCM800 single channel head. The amp on the right looks like a JCM800 split channel, but there is no cable plugged in; so I suppose it was a backup. Between two and three minutes in the video, Axl hangs out by Slash's rig quite a bit. So, you can decide for yourself.

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