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2266 -> 2466

Postby gtrman » 02 Aug 2010, 12:24

Just sold my 2266 Vintage Modern ... not too worry though ... I did it to upgrade to the 100w.
I really dig the xtra omph the 100w delivers on the "clean" channel.
Will give me xtra backline volume on live gigs. Sure the 50w has volume enough but I do like having those xtra tubes work for me.

I did consider keeping the 2266 but I really do have just too many Marshalls right now ...

I havent tried it out with the band yet ... I guess thats when I really will hear/feel the difference.
I have been planning this for a while but no used 2466 has been availble on the used market here.
I have seen plenty of 2266 used but finally came across a 2466. I wonder if there are a lot fewer 2466 out there ... :think
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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby surfnorthwest » 02 Aug 2010, 13:27

Yes I would say there are. More guys buy the 50 watt amp seems to me. I originally bought the 2266 when it first came out in 2007 and after a couple of days traded it for the 2466 I have now. The 2266/2466 debate has many threads here but the bottom line is the 2466 has more, more of everything.
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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby MKB » 02 Aug 2010, 13:37

Agreed, I have without exception liked 100W Marshalls better than 50W versions, they just sound more Marshally. The tone of a Marshall is a balance of preamp and power amp distortion, and without a loud powerful power amp it can sometimes get mushy and loose sounding. The 100W versions just sound stronger and ballsier in most cases.

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 02 Aug 2010, 18:50

Look at almost every professional player, in the studio and in the arena its 100 watt amplifiers in almost every case. Unless your Eddie Van Halen with a mic'ed up 40 watt bandmaster under the stage!.
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Postby surfnorthwest » 02 Aug 2010, 19:12

Slashwannabe1 wrote:Look at almost every professional player, in the studio and in the arena its 100 watt amplifiers in almost every case. Unless your Eddie Van Halen with a mic'ed up 40 watt bandmaster under the stage!.
Yea but those stacks sure look good don't they. Believe me, Eddie isn't the only one doing this so are many others. Perhaps not with the Bandmaster but a mic'd up small amp anyways.
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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby danocaster » 14 Aug 2010, 10:54

Does anyone know if its safe to have an amp shop install a 1/2 cut power switch on a 2466 so I can crank it a bit more? also looking to get more gain I boost it with a ocd pedal ,would groove tubes kt66 with a low rating be recommended they say they distort quicker but I dont know what the stock tubes are rated at.

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby Green Manalishi » 19 Aug 2010, 16:07

Dano, you're better off getting an attenuator to knock the volume down a little, IMO.
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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby Mats A » 20 Aug 2010, 02:47

Well John Sykes, Michael Schenker, John Norum, Angus Young (In the studio fot solos I´ve read), Jeff Beck all play 50W amps. Do they sound bad?

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby Angus » 20 Aug 2010, 04:11

Mats A wrote:Well John Sykes, Michael Schenker, John Norum, Angus Young (In the studio fot solos I´ve read), Jeff Beck all play 50W amps. Do they sound bad?

And I thought Mr Clapton sounded quite passable on the Beano album, although that was actually less than 50 watts wasn't it - although I gather he was using KT66's unlike the majority of the aforementioned 100 watter legions.

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby spidey » 20 Aug 2010, 13:49

Don't forget Paul Gilbert, he favours the 2266.
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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby TubeStack » 20 Aug 2010, 13:57

Mats A wrote:Well John Sykes, Michael Schenker, John Norum, Angus Young (In the studio fot solos I´ve read), Jeff Beck all play 50W amps. Do they sound bad?
No, they sound great, but an old 50W Marshall isn't like a 50W VM. The VM is really a 36W amp, when looked at in the same way as older Marshalls: it's rated 36W clean and 50W when driven, whereas old Marshalls were rated 50W clean and far more (close to twice as much) when driven.

(I've also read Angus sometimes used a 100W head for rhythm and a 50W for leads...?)

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The 2266 and 2246 are both fantastic amps, it depends on your needs which one will suit you the best. For me, I love the increased headroom and punch of the 2466, and the way it pushes/fills a 100W 4x12 nicely. But a different player with different applications may prefer the 2266.

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby RogerH » 21 Aug 2010, 04:34

TubeStack wrote:.....an old 50W Marshall isn't like a 50W VM. The VM is really a 36W amp, when looked at in the same way as older Marshalls: it's rated 36W clean and 50W when driven, whereas old Marshalls were rated 50W clean and far more (close to twice as much) when driven...
Maybe a dumb question, but what's the reason for this difference? is it the KT66's?

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby TubeStack » 21 Aug 2010, 07:57

RogerH wrote:
TubeStack wrote:.....an old 50W Marshall isn't like a 50W VM. The VM is really a 36W amp, when looked at in the same way as older Marshalls: it's rated 36W clean and 50W when driven, whereas old Marshalls were rated 50W clean and far more (close to twice as much) when driven...
Maybe a dumb question, but what's the reason for this difference? is it the KT66's?
Not sure what the reason is, or if it has to do with the KT66s. Maybe it was done purposely to make the amp more practical/usable?

The 2466 seems to be the perfect volume level, whereas an old JCM 800 2204 I had was just way too loud, all the time. :bgrin

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby Mats A » 22 Aug 2010, 14:10

I think the 50W is loud enough for most places. And I usually mike my amp at gigs. And I mostly play with much distortion. I know the VM is not as loud as a standard EL34 Marshall but doubt there is a big difference between 36W and 50W. Also does the amp get much louder after reaching it´s output limit. Wont it mostly turn into distortion?

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Re: 2266 -> 2466

Postby TubeStack » 22 Aug 2010, 16:22

Mats A wrote:I think the 50W is loud enough for most places. And I usually mike my amp at gigs. And I mostly play with much distortion. I know the VM is not as loud as a standard EL34 Marshall but doubt there is a big difference between 36W and 50W. Also does the amp get much louder after reaching it´s output limit. Wont it mostly turn into distortion?
Have you played an old 50W Marshall, like a 2204? They're crazy loud, way louder than the 2266. To me that's a plus for the 2266, for most players, though.

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