Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

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Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Neylus » 29 Nov 2011, 15:45

Here's my covers using my "new" 1984 JCM 800 2203 with a Boss GE-7 EQ.

Mr Brownstone (broken string at 1:53)


It's so Easy :


My Michelle :


And a quick clip improvising some "You're crazy" :


Thanks for watching guys !
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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Encore » 02 Dec 2011, 04:57

Great covers, Neylus! :clap
Did you set your GE-7 with an upside down smile?
And how do you like JCM 800 compared to Vintage Modern?
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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Neylus » 04 Dec 2011, 09:43

Encore wrote:Great covers, Neylus! :clap
Did you set your GE-7 with an upside down smile?
And how do you like JCM 800 compared to Vintage Modern?
Thanks for the nice words :)
Yes the GE-7 was like an upside down smile.
And I prefer a lot my JCM 800 to my 2266, it has more punch, and it has something that the VintagModern doesn't have... awesome amp.
I'm thinking about modding it to have a 2203 normal channel, a #34 channel and a #36 channel.
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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 16 Dec 2011, 04:11

Neylus wrote: And I prefer a lot my JCM 800 to my 2266, it has more punch, and it has something that the VintagModern doesn't have... awesome amp.
YEAH 50 FUCKING WATTS! :ball kick

Neylus I can honestly say that you are the one person in almost 4 years of me coming to this forum that genuinely pisses me off with some of your posts and that says a lot seeing I've tangled with people so bad I almost got banned when I was in a bad place in my life and very short fused. Almost every post I read of yours not only on this forum but youtube is full of misinformation and false opinions about gear and especially the Vintage Modern, I am smart enough to differ whats opinion of some of your reviews and whats crap, so I'm only talking about the things concerning the areas that are NOT subjective like the attributes of the Vintage Modern vs those of the JCM 800. The JCM 800 vs Vintage Modern debate is subjective as they are both in my eyes iconic & great sounding Marshalls, but the bs in the above post is not a subjective opinion its just banter to me.

And heres why...

First off you're not comparing apples with apples, you're trying to compare your 2203 100 Watt JCM 800 to a Vintage Modern 2266 50 watt!!! No shit it doesn't have the punch its 50 watts less!!!. Plus on top of that the JCM 800s volume pot sends the god damn juice to the power tubes faster than the Vintage Moderns more useable master volume control does, meaning louder faster but NOT louder overall, so if you really want to compare a JCM 800s punch to a Vintage Moderns, do it testing a 100 Watt Vintage Modern and 100 Watt JCM 800 with both amps on 10 and you might wet your little knickers at how the great the VM is and how the amps are quite a match for eachother. A few people have done decibel tests a while back and the Vintage Modern rigs averaged 3-5 more db over the JCM 800s.

Theres opinions of tone & gear and then theres ignorance, almost everything you post is ignorance based off of what somebody else thinks and not your own actual opinion. Yes you're very talented at playing guitar but also very talented at running your mouth/keyboard with bs. :scared2

If people think I'm being a Vintage Modern fan boy they are sorely mistaken, to a point yes,but only because it is a great amp that beat the others out in my eyes and I can say this because I DID have the money to buy any production Marshall on the market that I wanted and I bought the Vintage Modern because it was the best package available and great at many things not because the only amp I could get was a VM. My favorite guitar tone on a recorded album was done with a JCM 800 on GNR's Don't Damn Me. Now with that said the Vintage Modern can compete on every level and more than a JCM 800 ever even wished it could in stock form. JCM 800s just didn't totally have "it" without help from pedals or modding an extra gain stage or the #34 mod, The Vintage Modern will get you there without doing a damn thing. :jam

Everyone knows that JCM 800s have an on off switch mislabeled as Master Volume knob lol (joking!) The Vintage Moderns volume knob allows full control of volume, those old switches like the JCM 800 where the amp gets loud right away gave a false perception that the amp was louder than its competition because I think Marshall knew full well that most people would not have the balls to dime it to find out and the secret at the time was that it doesn't get any louder after say about 6 on the dial where as the Vintage Modern just starts to get the tubes hot there and pour on the coals after that point.
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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby aristotle » 16 Dec 2011, 11:09

Sounds great Neylus! Given that I could hear the pick strikes against the strings, my assumption is that you were playing at a pretty low volume. Sounds like you have it dialed in very well.

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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Mats A » 22 Dec 2011, 13:24

Slashwannabe1 one must be entitled to think a 2203 sounds better than a VM like Neylus. Just because you think the VM is the greatest amp doesn´t mean all must think that. I think even a 2204 has more punch than a VM. Probably the EL34´s.

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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Slashwannabe1 » 23 Dec 2011, 03:42

Mats A wrote:Slashwannabe1 one must be entitled to think a 2203 sounds better than a VM like Neylus. Just because you think the VM is the greatest amp doesn´t mean all must think that. I think even a 2204 has more punch than a VM. Probably the EL34´s.
Thats not it Mats A, an Amplifiers tone IS subjective and one person liking one over the other is a case of "to each his own" I do not disagree with that, I embrace that. My favorite Amplifier recorded tone is a JCM 800 2203 with the #34 mod, so arguing if the Vm or JCM 800 is better is like telling me to choose between family members, but I am allowed to call BS on something I believe to be bogus, comparing a JCM 800 100 watt to a Vintage Modern 50 watt. Top 3 amps for me in no specific order...JCM 800 2203 with #34 mod, 2555 Marshall Jubilee and 2466 Vintage Modern, I'm a Marshall fanboy in general. I've never owned a 50 watt 2266 or played on one long enough to know what makes it tick, I've had the 100 watt 2466 my whole VM experience and I've played a few JCM 800 2203s with the 6550 tubes, overall volume is nearly identical between them except for the fact the Vintage Modern has a more useable master volume.

NOW, Neylus trying to compare his JCM 800 2203 100 watts volume to a 2266 Vintage Modern 50 watt and saying it crushes the VM line is a total sack of shit! an opinion of which is not protected by the subjective excuse and one that needs to be corrected. Its like comparing a Lamborghini Race car to an Economy compact Car made to get good gas mileage around the city and then bragging about beating it in a race, totally senseless. He can like the tone better all day long on that JCM 800 vs his old VM and not bother me one bit, but I'd at least like him to not be so bias & ignorant about how he compares gear! thats what grinds my gears about him. And the only reason I get so genuinely pissed at this kid is because of all the misinformation he spews on youtube and other sites without taking a unbiased stance and now the Vintage Modern Forum.

Now if Neylus would have compared the JCM 800 2203 100 watt to the 2466 Vintage Modern 100 Watt I'd have not even blinked at his post regardless of his findings, because at least then he'd have been comparing amps that are on an equal playing field.
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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Neylus » 31 Dec 2011, 18:57

Ok here's a new vid : Paradise City cover with my rythm guitar player.


Using a Marshall JCM 800 2203 from 84 all stock (the lead guitar = me) and a Marshall Vintage Modern 2266 head. The two heads are in the same 425A cab in stereo mode.
Thanks for watching and give me your feedbacks please !
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Re: Some slash covers using a 2203... for Lovers !

Postby Encore » 19 Jan 2012, 08:30

Another great cover! :clap
I've got a question about your guitar.. Did your LP Traditional came without pickguard installed or you just removed it?

P.S. When you will make some new covers, please make sure that we can see all of the frets. It could be very usefull for people (like me :howdy ) who want to learn how to play this songs. Thanks!
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