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So where does the power scaling fall short in your opinion? Does it change the sound too much? That's the only thing on this amp that interests me.Vavoom wrote:Cool attenuator....not as great as I thought it would be, but still not bad.
OVERALL: Thumbs up. Hey it might be a one trick poney, but you maybe have to go this route to get an authentic awesome type sound.
I would like to A/B our AFD's. See what difference there is. To me, a Plexi (I've played through a few) is much, much cleaner. Night and day difference. You can dial down the gain to 3 on the AFD and the AFD still has more gain than a Plexi on 10. Having said that, you can put pedals in front of a Plexi. So far IMO any distortion pedal in front of the AFD would be mush overkill. Again, my opinion. I think a Plexi would be much more flexible because of the pedals you could throw in front of it.Mats A wrote:I don´t really agree here. I can get as good a clean sound on the AFD as on my Plexi reissue. And i play with gain on 8.
I see the plexi or YJM also as much of a one trick pony. It´s not like you can stomp on a switch and instantly get a clean sound.
Beck-Ola wrote:So where does the power scaling fall short in your opinion? Does it change the sound too much? That's the only thing on this amp that interests me.Vavoom wrote:Cool attenuator....not as great as I thought it would be, but still not bad.
OVERALL: Thumbs up. Hey it might be a one trick poney, but you maybe have to go this route to get an authentic awesome type sound.
Overall I don't need this amp because my slightly modded JCM800 gives me a similar sound and it's also a one trick pony, but I will never get rid of it because it has a great articulate crunch. Anyway I don't care about Slash. Yngwie that's another story.
Hmmm....interesting. As you say, you haven't had it very long so you may change some of your initial assessments. By all means the method of volume reduction in the AFD is not attenuation as in all those outboard boxes. Those "burn off" the power after it's been created whereas a power scaler limits the amount of power produced in the first place while retaining the tube's response. It shouldn't change the dynamics in the same way but at lower settings it's expected to introduce some change. Sure there is nothing like speaker excursion---but that's where the loudness comes from.Vavoom wrote:Well, difference of opinion. I don't care much for Yngwie....but Slash is incredible. Yngwie is brilliant in his own way....just kind of wears on me after awhile.....kind of like all scales.....I'm sure I'll get some replies from that statement. Hee hee.....
To answer your question about the attenuator. I have an Air Brake and have tried this on all my amps and it behaves exactly the same way the Marshall to my ears. However, I don't think it operates on the same principle. The Airbrake operates on resistance and I believe the Marshsall my be more voltage regulated. Not quite sure. I read about the Marshall attenuator awhile back and was quite impressed by the article but to me, it sounds similar to using my Airbrake.
So it falls short IMO due to the fact that the stated technology is different than my Airbrake but the outcome is very similar, which isn't bad, but it does diminish the dynamics like my Airbrake. Nothing beats speaker excursion. To me it is very usable, but when I first dialed it down to bedroom level it was similar to just lowering a master volume. Again folks....my opinion. Keep in mind I have had the amp for 24 hours and I will continue to tweak and explore. Similar to you, I was thinking.....gee whiz, this attenuator might just kick ass on all the Airbrakes, Ultimate Attenuators, Hotplates out there....but I think they all achieve similar results.
The only problem I have when trying to get a clean sound out of a high gain amp is if you turn down your guitar pass 5, you lose it's character and it sounds to thin. Same with the amp. You turn down the gain below 70 percent and you lose the amp AND the guitar character. This is what I mean by not able to do clean. Lastly, has anyone tried a single coil through the AFD? I did. Ouch. Humbuckers need only apply.Mats A wrote:Well it works for me. I have the gain on 8 on both the AFD and the Plexi and just roll down the volume on the guitar to about 2 or 3 mostly on the rythm pickup. I don´t like distortion pedals so it´s all amp overdrive on both. I usually use like a preamp pedal my brother has built on the Plexi. Same with the Yngwie if you use the booster. You both have to turn that off and roll down the volume on the guitar. If you got more high output pickups like many do it´s much harder getting a clean sound like this.
According to the Output control i think it works great. I don´t think it changes the tone at all except for the speaker getting less signal and that will always affect the tone.
I do and it sounds absolutely wonderful.Vavoom wrote: I would like to try this amp through all green backs.
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